And it was about the crew of a spaceship…
它讲的是一群太空船员…
this might sound familiar…
是不是听起来很耳熟…
who then is assailed by an alien who sort of stows away on the ship.
被躲在太空船里的外星生物袭击
“Dark Star,”
《黑星球》
that’s the comic version of “Alien.”
相当于是喜剧版的《异形》
One makes you laugh,
一部让你捧腹
and the other one’s going to eat you alive.
另一部则会将你生吞活剥
Carpenter wanted sole directing credit,
卡朋特想要单独署名为导演
and O’Bannon felt he’d done enough to get cowriting credit.
欧班农认为他贡献之多 足以署名为联合编剧
So they had this kind of big falling out.
结果他们大吵了一架
And O’Bannon’s first thought
那之后欧班农的第一个想法是
is that, well, I can go and do this on my own.
我可以自己拍一部啊
I will write a story, a science fiction story
我会写一个故事 一个科幻故事
that will beat “Dark Star.”
可以碾压《黑星球》那种
Wouldn’t you consider another course of action?
你能考虑采取另一种做法吗
For example, just waiting around a while so we can disarm you?
比如呆在那儿别动 好让我们解除你的武器
No.
不行
Because I’m not going to do a comedy,
因为我不想拍喜剧
I’m going to do it as a horror movie.
我要拍成一部恐怖电影
The ship will automatically destruct in T-minus five minutes.
这艘船会在五分钟之后自行摧毁
You bitch!
混♥蛋♥
A lot of things bother me about “Dark Star.”
《黑星球》有很多东西我并不喜欢
We had an alien in it, which was a beach ball.
里面的外星人看起来就像一个沙滩球
It was our second try on that alien.
那是我们做的第二版外星人
I went away from “Dark Star”
拍完《黑星球》
really wanting to do an alien that looked real.
我特想做一个看上去很真实的外星生物
Jodorowsky saw “Dark Star,”
佐杜洛夫斯基看了《黑星球》
which is how he found out about Dan O’Bannon.
知道了丹·欧班农这号♥人物
Nobody in Hollywood was impressed with Jodorowsky.
好莱坞没人看好佐杜洛夫斯基
So he said, well, to hell with you.
于是他说 “好吧 去你们的”
So he found Dan and said,
他找到了丹说
come work on “Dune” with me.
“咱一起拍《沙丘》吧”
If you want to look to the first magic,
如果想看触动《异形》的最初魔法
I think you have to go back to Jodorowsky.
我认为你应该看看佐杜洛夫斯基的电影
Jodorowsky was his guru.
佐杜洛夫斯基是丹·欧班农的精神导师
He adored him.
他很崇拜佐杜洛夫斯基
I’ve never met him and I adore him.
我从没见过佐杜洛夫斯基 但我也很崇拜他
Not only is there a synchronicity that connects “Dune” and “Alien,”
《沙丘》和《异形》之间不仅有很多共通的地方
there’s almost an archetypal counterbalance between the two.
同时也有某种架构上微妙平衡
If “Dune” is the Tower of Babel,
如果说《沙丘》试图建造一座巴别塔
“Alien” is exactly what brings down that tower.
那《异形》就是摧毁那座塔的力量
In the same way that “Alien” is the response to Prometheus
如同《异形》是对普罗米修斯
trying to steal fire from the heavens,
试图盗天火到人间的回应
the movie “Alien” is also a response, energetically, archetypally,
《异形》同样也是 从精神上 架构上
to the Tower of Babel project that was “Dune.”
对《沙丘》所代表的“巴别塔”式叙事的回应
When “Dune” collapsed in Paris,
当《沙丘》项目在巴黎彻底失败以后
Dan came back and actually crashed on the couch in the house I was living in with a bunch of people
丹回到美国 蜗居在我当时和别人合租♥房♥♥子的沙发上
because he didn’t have anywhere to go.
因为他没别的地方可去
And it… he…
并且他…
he was completely at a loss.
很一蹶不振
Eventually, he… we said, you got to go.
最后我们不得不让他离开
So somehow, he wound up on Ron Shusett’s couch.
结果他不知怎的就混到了罗恩·舒塞特家的沙发上
I went back to storage, got my typewriter out,
我回到储存室 取出了我的打字机
took it over to Ronnie Shusett’s living room,
把它带到了罗恩·舒塞特家的客厅
and over the days and nights of the next three months,
接下来的的三个月
Ron keeping me alive by feeding me hot dogs.
罗恩用热狗养活了我
We were both starving.
我们当时都忍♥饥挨饿
My wife was supporting us.
我妻子一直支持我们
We had two rooms, that’s all we had.
我们除了两间空房♥外什么都没有
He made up a board game called Poverty,
他设计了一个桌游 叫“大穷鬼”
sort ofthe opposite of Monopoly.
跟“大富翁”正好相反
You’ve got to land on enough spaces to pay the rent.
你必须占领足够土地以便支付房♥租
You’re out on the street if you can’t afford to stay.
如果你没法儿付钱就会被扫地出门
It’s absolutely a scream.
那绝对是一个令人拍案惊奇的杰作
In 1971, Dan was working on a story he called “Memory.”
到了1971年 丹写了一个故事 叫《记忆》
It’s basically the first 30 pages of “Alien.”
它几乎就是《异形》的前三十页
I had this opening.
我构思了这样一个开头
I didn’t know where it was gonna go.
但我不知道它接下来会如何发展
I wanted to do a scary movie on a spaceship with a small number of astronauts.
我想写一个发生在只有少数船员的太空船上的惊悚故事
They’re receiving a signal in an alien language.
他们收到了一个用外星语言发出的信♥号♥♥
They go down to investigate.
于是他们前去调查
Their ship breaks down.
然后太空船出故障了
Dan called it “Memory,”
丹给这个故事起名叫《记忆》
because some influence in the planet gradually made them lose their memory.
由于那个星球的某些影响 角色们逐渐失去了记忆
But that’s where this story ends.
不过当时的故事到此就结束了
He says, OK, I’m going to give you
他说 我给你看看
the first act I’ve got to this original horror movie I wrote.
我写的这部恐怖电影的第一幕情节
I can’t get past page 29.
写到29页我就写不下去了
Maybe you can help me do that.
或许你可以帮帮我
So I read it.
于是我读了
29 pages was almost exactly like you saw in the final finished product of the “Alien” movie.
这29页内容几乎就是你在《异形》电影里所看到的那样
It was fantastic.
非常棒的东西
Dan said, there’s a key to everything.
丹说整个故事有一个很关键的问题
The key is how does the alien get on board?
就是外星生物是怎么到太空船上的
His concept was always it would come out of your stomach.
他一直的构思 都是它会从你的肚子里钻出来
basically appeared while he was filming “Dark Star.”
基本上在他拍《黑星球》的时候就开始出现那种症状
So he was, what, 24, 25?
那时候他才24 25岁的样子吧
And it eventually killed him.
他最后还是死于此症
But it was an intestinal disorder that
我觉得正是这个肠道疾病
sometimes felt like it was devouring him, I think.
有时让他觉得自己正被吞噬
Linda and I would sometimes have to take him to the emergency center
有时候他痛得很厉害
in the middle of the night when the pain was so great.
琳达和我不得不半夜带着他去急症室
And at the same time,
也就在差不多同一个时期
he’d been having conversations with Ron Shusett about
他开始和罗恩·舒塞特讨论
wasps that procreate by planting that eggs into other insects.
黄蜂如何通过把卵注入其他昆虫体内以便于繁殖
It was kind of all these things sort of come together
所有这些想法慢慢出现
and were being sown into the script.
最终融合到了《异形》的剧本里面
Ron in a way was really fascinated with the idea
罗恩一直沉迷于人类作为
of human beings being a host for… for an embryo,
胚胎宿主的想法
that human beings were the nutrition for an embryo.
作为宿主的人类 提供胚胎所需的养分
He didn’t have it in the script at all
丹最开始的剧本压根没有那个桥段
that it would implant something in his stomach and it would grow there.
关于异形把东西注入到宿主肚子里 并且在那里生长的桥段
So I went to sleep.
那天我迷迷糊糊地去睡觉
And I’m aware… it wasn’t dreaming.
突然清楚地意识到 我不是在做梦
It was something else. It was when your mind is in the subconscious.
而是另外一种状态 是潜意识极度活跃的状态
I was wrestling with a property in my sleep.
我在睡眠中还在一直琢磨这个想法
I woke him up, I went right into his studio and I said, I have it.
我直接冲到他的房♥间 摇醒他说 我想出来了
I have it.
我想出来了
He said, what?
他说 什么
You have the answer?
你想到答案了
I said, I have the answer.
我说 我知道该怎么写了
The alien fucks.
外星生物把人类宿主给操了
He said, what?
他说 你说什么
What are you talking about?
你都胡说些什么
I said, jumps on his face,
我说 一个小怪物
it’s a little creature then,
像小鱿鱼一样
little baby squid-like,
它会跳到宿主的脸上
sticks a tube down his throat,
将一根管子插入他的喉咙
starts feeding him air,
在保持宿主呼吸通畅的同时
but he’s implanting his seed.
完成其生殖细胞的植入
And it’s going to grow inside him
接下来那颗种子就在他体内生长
and burst out of his chest in the middle of the movie.
然后在影片过半时 直接破膛而出
There are over a million species of parasitic wasps.
这个世界上大概有超过一百万种寄生的蜂类
That means that of all the animals in the animal kingdom,
这意味着在所有动物之中
the number one form of animal is a parasitic wasp.
寄生蜂是第一大物种
There are wasps that like to make caterpillars their host.
有很多蜂类喜欢把毛毛虫当做宿主
They can also release chemicals
它们还能释放一些化学物质
that control the behavior of their host.
来控制宿主的行动
And everything it eats is going to feed
宿主吃的所有东西都变成
these larvae that are growing inside of its body cavity.
其体内幼虫的食物

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