天佑鲍比（2009）

Not just screw us, right?
爱德华
Ed…
什么都没有 没有告别 没有留言
Nothing no! No goodbye, no note,
什么都没有 就那么…
Nothing. Just…
对不起 鲍比
I’m sorry Bobby.
对不起
I’m sorry.
你现在好受了吧
Are you happy now?
对不起 鲍比
I’m sorry Bobby.
你现在好受了吧
Are you happy now?
爱德华
Ed…
这不是你的错
It’s not your fault.
一定还有很多像鲍比这样的人
There must be other Bobbys out there.
想结束自己生命的年轻同性恋者
Other young gay people who may be thinking of taking their lives.
教堂有接触到他们吗
Does the church reach out to them?
有些教堂接触了
There are other churches to do that.
牧师约瑟夫让我们告诉您
Reverend Joseph asked us to tell you
他对您儿子的事情深表遗憾
How sorry he is for your loss.
我们可以过几周再来 来看看您的家…
We can come back in a couple of weeks and check in on your f…
你不明白 对吗
You don’t understand, do you…
我不知道该怎么做
I don’t know what to do.
我想要心安理得可我做不到
I need to make peace with this and I can’t.
上帝说污秽的灵魂将被投入火海
The lord says the impure will be thrown into the lake of fire.
鲍比
Bobby…
罪孽深重
Sinned!
可是他有颗纯净的心
But he was pure of heart.
他从未故意伤害过别人
He’d never knowingly hurt anyone.
这样够吗
Is that enough?
够吗
Is it?
亲爱的上帝
Dear god,
我对你还有些乞求
My relationship to you leaves something to be desired.
我从来没有向你索求过
I have never asked of you,
只有给予 就像你告诉我的那样
Only given, as I was told.
你的圣灵教授我如此之多
Your holy spirit has taught me so much…
但我现在需要知道更多
But now there’s more I need to know.
我不想
I can’t.
好吧
Ok.
我去客厅睡
I think I’m gonna sleep in the living room.
城市公共教堂
牧师吗
Reverend?
我是玛丽·格里菲斯
Mary Griffith.
很高兴你过来 玛丽
Nice to have you with us, Mary.
圣经
The bible…
说同性恋是一种应被处以死刑的罪恶
It says that homosexuality is a sin punishable by death.
你信吗
Do you believe that?
圣经上有各种各样的解释 格里菲斯夫人
There are other interpretations of the bible, Mrs Griffith.
我的儿子
My son…
是同性恋
Was gay…
他自杀了
And he killed himself.
这是那另外的一种解释吗
Is there an other interpretation of that?
很抱歉
I’m sorry.
他叫什么
What was his name?
鲍比
Bobby.
鲍比·格里菲斯
Bobby Griffith.
我在这见过他几次
I saw him here a couple of times.
我儿子吗
My Bobby?
他总是坐在很后面
He always sat way in the back.
后来他不来了
He stopped coming.
我很抱歉
I am so sorry.
你应该…
You must be…
我要知道答案
I need answers.
我要知道他现在在哪
I need to know where he is.
同性恋是一种不可被饶恕的罪行吗
Is homosexuality an unforgivable sin?
利未记[圣经旧约] 第18章第22节说
Leviticus, 18:22 says:
如果两个男人交♥媾♥
If a man lies with another man,
这是一种亵渎吗
It is an abomination.?
亵渎 不意味着是原罪
An abomination, in that time, didn’t mean sin.
那意味着不圣洁
It meant unclean.
利未记也说
Leviticus also goes on to
吃贝类物是亵渎
Say eating shellfish is an abomination.
还有编织
Or mixing fabrics…
利未记 第20章第13节
Leviticus 20:13
如果两个男人交♥媾♥ 他们都该被处死
If a man lies with another man, they both should be put to death.?
里面还说 通奸和违令父母
And then he says the same thing about an adultere,
也该被处死
Or a child that disobeys their parents.
我们当然不能只从字面上去理解经♥文♥
And we certainly don’t interpret that scripture litteraly.
申命记第22章里
In Deuteronomy 22,
如果一个女人在结婚当日不是处♥女♥
If a woman is not a virgin on her wedding day,
她应该被带到父亲的房♥子后被砸死
She should be taken to her father’s house and stoned to death.?
那你对来这的那些人怎么说
So what do you tell people who come here?
那些同性恋
Gay people…
同性恋没什么吗
That homosexuality is ok?
在上帝眼中这能被允许吗
That it is permissible in god’s eyes?
我告诉他们我认为的真理
I tell them what I believe to be the truth:
上帝爱他们 不论他们是谁
That God loves them as they are.
上帝的复仇之心是强大的
God’s vengeance is great.
他的恻隐之心也是
So is his compassion.
你不应该教他们同性恋没事
You shouldn’t teach them that homoseuxality is ok.
那不是圣经中说的
That’s not what the bible says.
那只会让他们更困惑
It just confuses them more.
格里菲斯夫人
Mrs Griffith,
如果你周末想来加入我们的谈话
If you’d like to come back during the week and talk,
我的大门向你敞开
My door is open,
但不是被责备
But not to be blamed.
好吗
Ok?
我们弄了棵很漂亮的圣诞树
I think that we got a pretty good one,
漂亮还布满装饰
Nice and full.
这球球像你老爸的秃顶一样闪亮
A couple of balls like your dear old dad.
或祖母的
Or grandma…
对
Yeah…
妈妈 咱们能把这个挂在树上吗
Mum, can we hang this one on the tree?
我记得他做这个的时候
I remember when he made this.
二年级
Second grade.
我记得是在唐斯太太的班上
Mrs Towns’ class, I think.
他可自豪了
He was so proud of himself.
你想挂哪
Where do you want to put it?
高高的
Up high.
这样他就能看到了
So he can look out.
它亮了
Hey, they work.
我去看看我的饼干
I’m gonna go check on my cookies.
我看了你之前说过的章节
I found the passage you talked about.
关于石刑
About stoning to death
申命记第22章
Deuteronomy, 22.
但桑多和哥莫若呢
But what about Sodom and Gommorah?
上帝惩罚了他们同性恋的罪行
God punishes the sin of homosexuality.
那个你怎么解释
How do you explain that?
很高兴见到你 玛丽
It’s nice to see you too, Mary.
这是要干嘛
What’s this for?
物件拍卖♥♥
It’s a roomish sale.
同性恋者们也都有
All gay people have roomish too.
那桑多和哥莫若呢
So… What about Sodom and Gommorah?
许多教♥徒♥认为他们的罪是贪婪而非同性恋
Many scholars think this sin was greed and not homosexuality.
被写出来后他们也不会就此被
And it wasn’t labeled homosexuality until years
标上同性恋的标签
After it was written.
你对所有的事情
Do you have answers for all these things
都有自己的一套理论吗
Just to justify being that way?
你的理论是错的
You have answers to justify that it’s wrong.
好像咱们看法很不同啊
I guess we’re in an impass here.
那你觉得随心所欲用你的想法
So you think it’s ok to interpret the bible
来解释圣经就行吗
Any way you want?
当然不
No, of course not.
但圣经是被凡人们写成并解释的
But the bible was written and interpreted by mortal men.